Is there a good listing of what a Scamp 13 actually weighs when empty and what the popular options add to the base weight. We ordered a standard 13 with the bath, shower , No ac, with awning and battery and propane tank and electric brakes. I realize that are all slightly different and accessories make all the difference. Thanks seems that 1,200 to 1,500 is a fairly large range
Mon, 10/01/2018 - 15:46
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Scamp 13 actual weight
On the Resource Menu-Buy New Scamp the floor plans and specs from Scamp Trailers are listed. The weights are pretty close for each model, but will vary some with options.
Real world weight varies so much that we recommend weighing on truck scales in your state. Some charge a small fee and some states leave the scales on and are no charge. You should weigh your trailer dry and also loaded for a trip. Even those weights will only ballpark as weights will vary with what you load in the trailer/vehicle for a trip.
If you know the model # for fridge, AC, etc the manufacturers spec sheets will list the weight for those additions.
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We bought our 2016 13' Deluxe Scamp used this past March. It has a front bath, awning, A/C, and dual propane tanks. At the time we bought it both propane tanks were mostly full. I took it to a local truck stop for a weight check. Beside what I have just described, the Scamp had no gear in it, and the freshwater tank, gray water and black water tanks were empty. So, pretty much the "factory" Scamp except for the propane in the tanks. Trailer weight was 1,830 pounds. Yes, I was a little surprised, but the wood cabinets I think add significant weight, followed by the A/C, awning and, of course, the propane.
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I am probably beating a dead horse about weight and tow vehicle But what is your impression of the forester's ability to tow your scamp. We have a standard 13 with Shower without AC and single tank coming in July We will be using a new Crosstrek with 6 spd manual which is smaller and lighter than the forester but has a 2.0L thanks. I am genuinely ok with a bit down on HP and slower travel speeds anyway but to be bound to 55 mph on flat land would be a bit much.
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I have an Outback 2.5L 4 cyl with 2700# tow rating. The Crosstrek has 1500#. If you tow EMPTY you are at capacity. It doesn't sound like a good idea. I typically tow at 60MPH or slower. Not that the vehicle won't go faster, It's safer and more economical ith safety being the primary concern. A vehicle's, any vehicle, handling & vision are severely reduced, and stopping distance is increased when towing. The more space I have between me and the other traffic gives me room and time to adjust to the conditions ahead. Just my opinion. Keep in mind I don't tear the tags off pillows either. :)
Robert, sorry I missed your reply, but I just respond to your PM. I'm posting my message reply to you here in case if may be helpful to anybody else. Also, after reading the more recent replies to this thread, I'd have to agree with others in that towing even a 13' Standard with the Crosstrek may not be a good idea.
"Robert, our 2009 Subaru Forester (2.5L non-turbo) does a pretty decent job pulling our 13' Scamp Deluxe outfitted for a Scamping trip here in the upper midwest (MN-WI), with no mountains. In a headwind I can only go about 60 mph as I want to keep the engine rpms down to a manageable level (e.g., 2500 rpms); I don't like to run it at higher rpms for long periods of time. Otherwse, I can cruise at 70 mph if necessary. The tow rating on our Forester is 2400 lbs (contingent on the trailer having trailer brakes, which our 13' Deluxe scamp does have) and the max. tongue weight is 200#. I've read a rule of thumb that one shouldn't exceed 80% of their max. tow rating, presumably to make it easier on your TV and add a margin of safety in case you have to get up and go when passing, etc. So, with our current setup we're getting pretty close to that limit. Again , I think the wood cabinets on our Deluxe add quite a bit of weight; if we had a Standard, I think the towing experience would be better.
Finally, my wife will be retiring next Spring, and I've got another year or two, after which we plan on taking a lot of Scamping trips to more mountainous areas, where I think the Forester just won't cut it. Based on my towing experience so far, I wouldn't feel comfortable towing our Scamp out west with the Forester. So, I'll unfortunately have to eventually deviate from the Subaru line (I currently own 3) and upgrade to something with more power and torque. Hope this helps. - Loyd"
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Our 1981 standard 13 loaded for a trip hit 1861lbs Tongue weight was close to 200 lbs with single tank and battery. From what I’ve seen over the years 1750 to 1950 lbs is where most 13’s are going to weigh in at loaded for travel. Payload also becomes a problem when pushing tow ratings, two people in the tow usually maxes it with nothing left to carry any gear. For a 13 Scamp we never recommend towing with any vehicle rated less than 2500 lbs. It can be done, but not within safety margins.
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Then what you're saying is that my Jeep with its 2000# tow rating could be a problem...my Scamp is not ready until October, but now is the time to discuss this.
If not now, when?
Larry
I need to get the ideal settled before buying the scamp at all that we have a deposit on. Can I suffer thru a season of local stuff and short flat lander trips until a heavier duty vehicle can be purchased for any real trips?? On the weekend of the 20th I will rent a U-Haul trailer about 5X8 or 6X10 to haul her small amount of stuff including a small couch This will be a real test of the vehicle at slightly over the 1,500 but under 2,000 and real wind resistance and its affects. A real world test to determine if I can safely/confidently get from Backus to south of Chicago. I talked with U-Haul last night and they had no concern with the larger 6X10 based on the vehicle but there criteria is a bit scary since it limits the trailer to 80% of the tow vehicle weight before any red flags pop up. 3,200 vehicle weight so 24-2,500 is Way outside my comfort level
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We can't recommend towing a new 13 Scamp with the specs on the Crosstek. You're not only going to be over the 1500 lbs limit, but you'll be over the tongue weight which is usually set at 10% of tow capacity. I'm certain you'll be over payload as well, probably a good bit.
Will it physically pull it, yes, but it's quite a bit outside the stated tow ratings for the vehicle. Potentially can void warranty if new car, can cause insurance issues if in an accident, as well as encountering sway and potential control issues at highway speed.
Up to you if you want to risk it, but we officially don't recommend exceeding tow ratings even for short term.
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Thanks Greg A I get it and appreciate your thoughts and concerns. I still plan to stop in Backus tomorrow afternoon and look into the little scamp and factory on our way through. will start looking in Ernst for a more capable tow vehicle. But will likely end up giving my slot to the next lucky buyer. like everyone there is only so many nickles to go around. I was so excited to find something to bridge the gap between our lost motorhome and a tent or tear drop. But not likely to be.
Totally bummed and sick over the reality. I can only fool my self for so long
Thanks again
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