How usable and comfortable is the front dinette in the 13' deluxe model? From the floor plan it looks like one seat has a slanted back.
Thanks.
David
Fri, 01/06/2017 - 15:51
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Front dinette in deluxe 13'
David,
The front dinette is very usable. The "floor plan" shows the seat next to the front door with an angled cushion, it really is not angled as shown.
I am 5'10" and weigh about 205lbs. so chubby. I wear a 36 waist pant and it is snug for me to get in. After sitting down it's fine.
My intent is to try and lose some weight (I'm 57 yrs old been trying that for the last 30 yrs) so I may end up having the table top remade with a larger radius on that side or a 45deg. angle to allow better entry / exit.
Bill.
Bill, your comment about getting in the dinette made me smile! My husband is about your size, and he just barely scootches into our rear dinette in our 13'. We bought it used, and the owners had only camped in it one time. They were both quite portly people, and we think they had a reality check as to exactly how snug a 13' can be. When buying one of these little cuties I think everyone should actually spend some time maneuvering around in them to make sure they fit in those tight spaces, including the bed. They are not comfortably designed for larger people, either height- or width-wise.
Rhonda Riebow
Thanks to all for your comments and suggestions. We've decided we want the front dinette and don't want to modify a front bunk standard model ourselves so we've ordered a 13' deluxe. It sounds like it will meet our needs and it will be an incentive to not put on any more weight! I do have a few detail questions if you have time to answer them Bill. Does the front dinette concert into a small bed? Also, what is the cabinet in the front left corner behind the seat? Do you have a port-potti and if so, where do you store it? Finally, do you know the dry weight and tongue weight of your trailer as it is configured?
David
David
I think you will be happy with your decision. It sounds like you have made a decision that want a front dinette.
You are buying a new trailer and to spend $12,500 just to "cut it up" and modify it into a front dinette doesn't sound appealing. Your money is probably well spent to get a Deluxe already completed from the factory. And the wood interior is attractive and warmer feeling to some folks.
The front dinette table does convert to a short bed. I have slept there with my legs slightly bent, which is fine for me because that's how I sleep anyway.
The storage cabinet behind the left side front seat is for storage. There is 1 shelf and is open down to the floor. We keep a coffee pot, toaster, dry goods, etc. in there.
We keep the rear made as a full time bed. We had a custom 10" mattress made from Verlo for $360. The porta poti goes below.
I have not had the trailer weighed but real world weight is about 1,500 lbs with the Deluxe, Refrigerator Water, no air. The tongue weight is about 180 lbs with a tank of propane and 24 battery. We have electric brakes on the trailer and tow with a 2012 Subaru Outback 4 cyl with a tow rating of 2,700 lbs.
If you want there is a very simple way to use a $100 "Walmart"air conditioner in the rear window,
Bill
Hello Bill,
Do you have more information and pictures on how to use an a/c unit in the back window? I've seen so many posts about the weight of the a/c roof unit (even in newer models) eventually bending the roof line, but it also seems a back window a/c unit might lead to window leaks...?
Thank you!
i put an AC in my back window, you don't have to worry about weight if you buy an Air Conditioner Support Bracket. It braces itself against the side and the window frame, i've had no issues with mine. They are mandatory in NYC window units so they don't fall and kill someone, i found a NY Times review of the best brackets and bought that one. I figure if they are recommended to be mounted 10 stories up in NYC it will handle a Scamp and the road just fine. and it does. I framed it in with painted wood and then silicon caulked all the edges so it's weatherproof. works great.
1987 Scamp 16
David,
I have a 16' Deluxe with the front dinette. I purposely wanted it so the back could be left made into a bed. I found the front dinette a little tight fitting. I solved part of the problem by removing the back cushion on the right side. The cabinet on the left side has a shelf and the opening goes almost to the floor. I use the open space below the shelf as a clothes hamper.
David,
You could buy the standard model and convert the the front bunks to a dinette. That way you could make the seating area larger and also include a conversion back to bunks. The Deluxe model has a cabinet behind the seat that I think makes the seating area tighter. You could also buy the big bed model which would allow ample room for two.
Anthony Memoli
Anthony,
I like your idea of converting the bunks to a dinette -- have you seen this done? My understanding is that you can't cut into the fiberglass base for the bunk bed without undermining the strength/integrity of the trailer. Any ideas you have would be most welcome.
Thanks,
Robert
Hi Robert,
Yes, I have seen this done. Google search "Scamp 13' dinette conversion" and click on images. Lots of pictures. I don't think the integrity of the trailer is compromised. Once the fiberglass is cut, a frame would have to be made to brace up each side. You can buy the dinette table and stand from Scamp. I will be doing this conversion shortly after picking up our new Scamp.
The deluxe dinette is too small to convert into a bunk at any rate because of the cabinet behind the left seat so having an extra sleeping area is not an option with that model.
Anthony
Anthony Memoli
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