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Rhalford
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question about structural support

can i remove the lower front bunk bed fiberglass of my 13 ft to add a shower or is it needed for structural support of the camper?

 

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No, you cannot do this.

No, you cannot do this. Scamps made with bathroom shower are supported differently, made differently. Contact Scamp to verify. 

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Add bath

Welcome!

Yes, the lower bunk in the Scamp 13 is not structural and can be removed. The structural supports are the 70's wrought iron rails in the kitchen, the closet and there is an aluminum bar alongside the front edge of the door on the interior. Several folks have modded bath and shower in the Scamp 13 in that location and we even have one member who put a bath tub in that area in a 16 Scamp.

I will caution you that it is not a job for the faint of heart to do the mod you are proposing. There are simpler/cheaper solutions like a Coleman Hot Water-On-Demand Portable Water Heater , Coleman 5-Gallon PVC Camp Shower, Stansport Cabana Privacy Shelter, Green/Tan , or even a long spray arm on the sink faucet that you hand out the window.

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Could this be done?

I saw this article on modding in a shower in a pop-up trailer when I was doing research.  Thought it was a neat idea but I am not sure if it could apply.  So, this is the link to the article and directions:  http://popuptimes.com/?p=787

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Similar Showers

I've seen several temporary shower setups in the Scamps, etc. Most use some type of tupperware base that they stand in and a circular shower rod/curtain attaching to the ceiling. Usually they use the coleman type heater noted above or something similar. Outside shower tent where one could also setup the porta potty would be my personal preference if boondocking and no campground facilities available.

I remember years ago when we first got our Scamp and started camping we noticed that most people in the campgrounds even in the big class A's did not use the bathroom/showers in their rigs. We put up a survey post and hardly anyone said they used the showers in their trailers if they had them. Potty in the trailer was used more, but the wives kicked the men out to the campground potty especially in the morning. laugh

Now that we have the full bath, most of the time we shower at the campground shower, but I have used it a fair amount when boondocking, etc.

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Well, don't know bout anyone

Well, don't know bout anyone else, but our idea of a Scamp started at the bathroom and went on from there! We USE our bathroom for what it was designed for. The comforts of home are absolute when available. Yes, we use the showers at designated camp sites. Must sat that shaving is rather unconventional, using the mirror on the door of,the micro wave! We too have utilized the shower as well, and just love it. Yep, the shower/potty is absolute friends.

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Having Tent Camped

Greg is right because we lived in a couple different areas of snowbird country but we faithfully take advantage of an in-RV unit for SO many reasons.  It just really depends on where you are and what kind of campers or other individuals are in the area.  Most parks with the Good Sam seal and KOA had very clean facilities with endless hot water, hooks, non-slip, etc.  We used to go to the state lake and their facilities were simple but clean.  It is always good to look for reviews on the different areas where you will be traveling.  There are a wealth of shower ideas on the internet which can be found by "googling".

Just about anything can be done but you have to decide if it is worth the cause, trouble and the time.  

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Has anyone seen the very

Has anyone seen the very dangerous warnings from Scamp on the dangers of using the shower and potty! Me neither! They are put in for a obvious reason, personal comfort. 

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Reasons Why They Use

There are actually a few reasons people don't use their TT bath/shower.  If they only have a propane water heater, it saves on the propane and seriously, some of the bigger rigs are on a very tight budget and there is the hassle of getting the tank filled.  Some like long showers, I want to get in, get clean and get out.  Some people are uncomfortable in tight spots or just don't fit there although my husband would rather be in tight confines rather than travel to the shower house.  Some don't want to have to clean the tanks but both my husband and myself share that job.  

Our son when he was younger hated to shower and when we went to Disney World and had no shower because we were tenting, he had to be showered. He screamed like he was being beaten to death.  It was very embarrassing and put us at risk of being reported to authorities, since they have people who are "mandated" reporters and other people who are just concerned which is good.  I had read a post on another forum where the family was trying to get their daughter with disabilities in the vehicle with the daughter resisting and some concerned person thought the daughter was being abducted and a short distance down the road they were stopped by authorities.  This is a good thing but a major added responsibility.

Heck, there are ads where people say they didn't use the stove.  I could wish for that to happen in our case although we have some outdoor cookery from our tenting accessories.

So, lots of individual variables.  It is one of those no right answers.  And, there are different ways to deal with the no shower, many innovative ideas and products.  

Cathy

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That is precisely why we love

That is precisely why we love having dual propane tanks. We have plenty of fuel when out. Showers for us, no problem. I must say the systems in the Scamp just truly sip propane. We have used the heater, hot showers and very little propane used. We have gauges on both. Wonderful having 2 tanks!

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Trailer Shower

If I recall the top reason people gave for not using the shower in their rigs was it was too difficult to clean it and I guess running the shower made a mess they felt had to be cleaned.  wink

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