Cook Top LPG Shutoff Valve?

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Achilles
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Cook Top LPG Shutoff Valve?

I'm having trouble with my Scamp 13's cooktop. I can't seem to get either burner lit. I know the LPG is being supplied because both the furnace (for cabin heat) and the hot water system are working fine. I don't smell any sulfur when I open the cook top valves, so I'm pretty sure I'm not getting any gas. I've stood over it trying for 20+ minutes and still no luck.

There's a regulator under the cook top but this is a brand new (to me) 2024 unit so I have difficulty believing it's faulty (TBC). The PO never even used the cook top so there's no history to go by. 

I'm thinking there must be a shutoff valve somewhere in the system that's still inadvertently closed, but I don't see anything when I search inside the rig in all the cubby holes, access panels, under the cook top / behind the refrigerator. Does anyone have experience with this or has a diagram showing the plumbing arrangement for this rig?

Thanks in advance for any help.

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Strange

Not familiar with the new Scamp setup, but regulator is normally on the tongue at the propane tank. There would be no need for a 2nd regulator at the stove and would cause issues if there was one. If gas is on and you turn stove burner on you should hear it and smell the gas. If not something is preventing the gas to the stove. There is a tee connector normally in the refrigerator access panel, maybe it is a shut off valve. You just have to backtrack the gas line from the stove until you find the active flow. The blockage will be between there and the stove.

Since it's a 24, Id call Scamp service and ask them in case it's something simple.

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Outside barby for my Scamp wouldn't work

Hi Greg,

Yup, two LP regulators in series would not let gas flow to the new barby that I wanted to plumb to the front of the Lil Critter with a quick connect fitting placed down stream from the Scamp regulator.

I removed the regulator from the new barby and everything worked great!

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Gas flow

Hi

On my 2021 13', to light you push down on the knob to enable gas flow while pushing the sparking button. There won't be any gas flow unless the knob is depressed. Just checking that you're doing that. 

Do you have a gas furnace or water heater? Do they work? That would confirm there is in fact gas flowing from the tank. 

I can look on mine but I don't recall a cutoff valve to the stove. 

Tom

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Tom, I've got Suburban model

Tom, I've got Suburban model SDN2U. It doesn't come fitted with an ignition button; it's to be lit with an external source (match, lighter). I've also confirmed per the parts illustration that there is indeed a regulator as part of the unit's built-in gas distribution piping, just upstream of the 2 burner manifold. It appears to be installed per the diagram. As stated in the original post, the hot water heater and the comfort heating furnace are working fine.

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No ignitor in 2024?

I'm surprised. I assumed new units would all have built in ignition systems. Sorry I missed in the original note that the other gas units were functioning. My bad. 

Have you been able to resolve the issue?

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Cook Top LPG Shutoff - SOLVED

So I finally got in my rig and got this sorted. Pulled the frig (and reversed the door swing - that had been driving me nuts) to assess. There is a gas manifold at the rear bottom of the kitchen cabinetry. All the gas users are fed from this manifold via flex hoses terminated with flare fittings (including a spare plugged off hose for if your frig uses propane). There are no individual service shut off valves although if someone wanted to it would be easy enough to do. Turned out, my cook top hose was seriously kinked. The hard pipe (really, 3/8" copper tube) feeding the cook top from the flex hose was long enough to push and kink the hose up against the outer wall of the trailer, completely cutting off gas flow. I valved off the LPG tank, removed that tube and used a tubing bender (thanks ACE) to put a 90 bend in the upstream end of the tube at the point where the hose connects. Reinstalled the tube, tightened it all up, bubble tested and sure enough got the stove going.

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Great news. 
On my 2021 13' that manifold is accessible behind the outside fridge (mine has a propane option). Also my fridge is mounted under the stove against the bath wall and opens correctly from the left. Seems that setup is different now. Glad you got it worked out though it seems like a flaw in how they routed / installed those lines.