1970's Scamp 13' serial number

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1970's Scamp 13' serial number

Have a 70-something Scamp 13', and have not yet located any stamped numbers on top of tounge tubing.  Scamp website says some early ones will be OPPOSITE door side, but the gentleman I contacted at the factory swears all of them will be on door side, about 8" from coupler.  Lots of layers of black paint and some rust, and I don't want to strip the entire tounge.  Can somone post a photo of the location to clear this up?  I'd like to know what year we have.  Had it almost 20 years, and have some restoring to do.  It's the old 1 7/8 ball hitch.  Thanks, new members Park and Patricia from AR..  

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Hi Park and Patricia and

Hi Park and Patricia and Welcome to SOI!!

The fella at the factory gave you good info from what my experience has been.  On the door side about 8" back from the coupler would be where ours was on a 1981 13 Scamp.  If you will post some pictures of your Scamp here, sometimes we can date them pretty close by the type of windows that are on it as well as a few minor other items.

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Serial no.

Thanks, Greg.  Will try to get more posted.   PW

Park and Patricia Arkansas

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All I have seen have been where described or closer to the coupler on that side on top of the frame rail. I have had to strip the paint and buff the metal to find some on the older trailers.Try not to grind or scratch the metal.  FYI you are not looking for a 17 digit VIN. Scamp did not change to them until sometime 1982. Your serial number should start with an E followed by several numbers (5 or 6).

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We own a '74 13' Scamp.  It

We own a '74 13' Scamp.  It has a plate riveted about half-way along the tongue frame extension opposite the door. 

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Hi Mccownw;

Hi Mccownw;

I have owned several Scamps from that era and have worked on dozens more, yet I have never seen the I.D. plate which  you describe.

Nor have I seen the number in that location.

Newer Scamps have a silly adhesive tag stuck on the inside of the tongue on the doorside in addition to the stamped number in the conventional location.

While it is certainly possible that your riveted tag is OEM, I think that it much more likely that it is an aftermarket (owner installed) item.

A lot can happen in 40 years.(lol)

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Hi , this is my first post

Hi , this is my first post here, but I intend to get aquainted with the ropesblush

If you have just a  normal  amount of paint on the tongue, you should be able to remove it with a purple scotchbrite, or fine sandpaper.

Sand the area gently down to bare metal.

As the "white metal" starts to show, the serial number will start to appear in stark contrast black, since the numbers will be filled with paint.

Early Scamps don't have a conventional VIN # like the newer ones do, but there will be a set of numbers there. (on top of the doorside tongue, a few inches behind the  coupler).

If you have a legitimate Title, the number should be printed on it, which should help you know what to look for.

The numbers are applied using ordinary welder's stamps,(1/4" I think) Any size will do if you must reapply them... should you find that they have been obliterated by repairs or upgrades.

When you are done it is a simple matter to reapply a coat of paint over the area using any good quality rattle can.

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The plate to which I refer

The plate to which I refer may not have the VIN.  I know it does have the date as month 3, year 74.  These numbers are stamped into the metal plate.

I am currently in India; I'll see if I can find a VIN when I am home again in January. I assume the VIN must be on the vehicle title. 

BTY, we have owned this trailer since May 1975. 

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Actual VINs were not required

Actual VINs were not required on cars until 1953. They became required on RV trailers sometime in the early eighties.

Serial or ID numbers were applied by different manufacturers in a ridiculous number of ways.

I had one fiberglass trailer which had a paper ID glued to the inside of the closet door, when the door was removed for remodeling???...

Accurate early Scamp history is difficult at best, since they did so many different things as experiments and running changes and they don't keep archives,so just about anything is possible

. . The frame stamping does seem to be pretty consistent though, and it is something both permanent and easily done.

I saw one once which had the number done in  freehand weld numbers  on an ugly plate which was then welded to the tongue!wink( probably not OEM)

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vin location-unable to locate

I have done some sanding and still unable to locate vin..any suggestions?

 

 

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vin location

Check that location on both sides.  Occasionally, on the old Scamps the VIN can't be seen any longer, or was in some oddball location and been removed. If you can't find it you can have a plate stamped with the VIN# from your title and attached.

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